Justine Greening: I want the DUP to change their minds on LGBT rights

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Education Secretary Justine Greening has denounced the DUPā€™s homophobic views, after her government struck a confidence and supply deal with the party.

After failing to win an overall majority at the election, Theresa May was forced to sign a $1 billion deal with Northern Irelandā€™s Democratic Unionist Party to prop up her government ā€“ despite the deep anti-LGBT views within the party.

Ms Greening, the Conservative Education Secretary and Minister for Women and Equalities, condemned the DUPā€™s views on The Times Red Box podcast.

The politician, who came out herself last year, said the partyā€™s views were ā€œclearly a concern for people like meā€.
Justine Greening

She said: ā€œWhatā€™s interesting to me is the DUP have their views, but in this Parliament, thereā€™s absolutely in the minority.

ā€œWeā€™ve never had more LGBT MPs and I think that the other big change for the better is that thereā€™s a cross-party consensus for moving forward on LGBT rights.

ā€œWe donā€™t need the DUP to support that, although I hope at some point, weā€™ll see their attitudes steadily change, as Iā€™d want to see with lots of people who donā€™t buy into LGBT rights in the UK change.ā€

She added: ā€œIn the meantime, you know what? We can push on with all of the agenda weā€™ve got. We didnā€™t need the DUP votes for that in the past, and we wonā€™t need them in the future.

ā€œJust look at the groundbreaking step forward on relationship and sex education being made compulsory in all secondary schools, and relationship education in primary schools. Thatā€™s something thatā€™s been stuck for years, and coming into this role I just felt it was something we needed to unblock.

ā€œWe did that on a cross-party basis, and actually itā€™s quite important for these sorts of issues, that we do bring the whole of Parliament with us.

ā€œThere will always be some MPs, for whatever reason, who donā€™t buy into it, but theyā€™re not going to hold us back.ā€


The minister also confirmed she sought assurances from the PM on equality, after Scottish Tory leader Ruth Davidson confirmed she had also done so.

Ms Greening said:ā€I spoke to both the Prime Minister and [Tory chief whip] Gavin Williamsonā€¦ I think we were very clear from the word go, both within our party and with the DUP, that thereā€™d be no backsliding on LGBT rights.

ā€œI felt it was absolutely critical. We canā€™t have made the amount of progress weā€™ve made, and then see that suddenly taken back in, in any way.

ā€œIn fact, I think if anything, this deal has underlined the determination across government that, whatever the politics of our current situation, there is some consensus to keep pushing forward on LGBT issues.ā€

The minister also hinted that she would press on equal marriage in Northern Ireland, where the DUP has employed peace process powers to block democratic votes in Parliament.

She said: ā€œWe had some steps forward in relation to women from Northern Ireland being able to get abortions in England, which I think was really important, and I hope this debate about LGBT rights across the UK will continue to make progress, including in places like Northern Ireland.

ā€œIā€™ll certainly be a voice for progress in the coming months and years. I can assure you of that, whichever role Iā€™m in.ā€