Lesbian icon Sandi Toksvig meets Archbishop of Canterbury to discuss same-sex marriage

The Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby in a photo composition with comedian Sandi Toksvig

The Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby has said progress on the Church of England (CofE) accepting same-sex marriage would be ā€œglacialā€ in a conversation with lesbian icon Sandi Toksvig.Ā 

The two met after the Welby invited Toksvig for a cup of tea in August 2022, when she took to Twitter to criticise his stance on the LGBTQ+ community as a ā€œhorrible mistakeā€.

The conversation between the two began after Archbishop Welby affirmed the notorious Lambeth Resolution 1.10, passed in 1998, when bishops rejected ā€œhomosexual practice as incompatible with scriptureā€.

Toksvig then wrote to Archbishop Welby on Twitter, claiming he had made a ā€œhorrible mistakeā€ on the issue. 

She cited heartbreaking statistics on the likelihood of self-harm and suicide ideation among young LGBTQ+ people, asking: ā€œDo you know why? For many itā€™s because they donā€™t feel loved, and love, Justin, is supposed to be at the core of what you do. Itā€™s like top of the job description.ā€

Toksvig updated Twitter after the ā€œlong-promised coffeeā€, explaining that she now thought the CofEā€™s position on LGBTQ+ rights and same-sex marriage is ā€œuntenableā€. 

In a video posted online after the meeting, Sandi Toksvig said it was clear the ā€œChurch of England and the society it purports to represent are not remotely in stepā€.

She added that the Archbishop said progress on LGBTQ+ rights within the Church will be “glacial”, if it “happens at all”.

ā€œYesterday I went to have coffee, tea, actually, with the Archbishop of Canterbury, not a sentence I thought would ever come out of my mouth,ā€ Toksvig said.

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ā€œFrom our very calm and considered conversation yesterday, it is very clear that the stateā€™s Church of England and the society it purports to represent are not remotely in step.

ā€œJustin was keen for me to see that they are moving forward, but conceded that any progress, as I would see it, if it happens at all, will be glacial.ā€

The Archbishop of Canterbury recently defended the CofEā€™s decision to exclude same-sex marriages from taking place in their churches.

The decision to block same-sex marriage from the Church was made during a general meeting on 17 January, where bishops refused to put the debate to a vote during the General Synod next month.

Welby then announced, alongside a formal apology to LGBTQ+ people for the way they have been treated by the Church, that same-sex couples could be blessed by priests following a marriage, but that he would not bless them himself.

ā€œBecause of my pastoral care and responsibility of being a focus of unity for the whole communion, I will not personally use them,ā€ he said during a conference.

Prior to meeting with Sandi Toksvig, Welby told Sky News: ā€œIf someone is married in a civil marriage ā€“ a same-sex marriage ā€“ they can come to church and have that marriage recognised and thanked for and dedicate themselves to Godā€¦ Thatā€™s something that weā€™ve never done before.

ā€œItā€™s controversial. Iā€™m getting an equal amount of flak from the other side about having compromised traditional Christian standards.ā€

Despite being legal since 2013, the Church of England has yet to include same-sex marriages within its teachings. The Church of Scotland voted to allow ministers to conduct same-sex marriages in 2022 and the Church of Wales approved a blessing service for same-sex partnerships in 2021.

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